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Francis

$69

(28 Reviews)

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Current Color: Cream

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Current Size: XS

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You asked, we created. Meet Francis, our first button down shirt, made in luxe cotton and designed for max versatility. Dress this up or down, and feel great either way.

Don’t know your Both& size? Figure it out by answering a few simple questions in our chatbox. Click ‘What’s my Both& size?’ in the chatbox to get started.

All of Both&’s designs are made with our unique, proprietary fit system. This system has been created by working with thousands of nonbinary and transmasc community members to create the perfect proportions for a masc fit on AFAB bodies.

Learn about the specific design elements for this garment through the fit guide.

Our clothing is made with 100% high quality cotton, produced ethically and sustainably, and is built to last. Join tens of thousands of happy customers today and find out for yourself why Both&’s fit is bringing gender joy to folks all over the world. 

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Francis
Product Reviews

(28 Reviews)

Francis
Product Reviews

(28 Reviews)

Fit & Sizing Guide

    • Azekai

      • Model: Azekai
      • Pronouns: He/Him
      • Fit: Post-Top Surgery
      • Height: 5′4″
      • Shirt Size: S/M
      • Pants Size: 30x28

    • Alpha

      • Model: Alpha
      • Pronouns: They/them
      • Fit: Binding
      • Height: 5'9"
      • Shirt Size: S
      • Pants Size: 32x28

    • Ki

      • Model: Ki
      • Pronouns: He/They
      • Fit: Not Binding
      • Height: 5'3"
      • Shirt Size: L/1X
      • Pants Size: 36x28

    • Rupert

      • Model: Rupert
      • Pronouns: Any
      • Fit: Binding
      • Height: 5′2″
      • Shirt Size: 2xl/3xl
      • Pants Size: 42x28

      Garment Measurements

      There are a variety of ways to figure out your Both& size. We recommend trying our chatbot, which produces quite accurate recommendations. We also recommend using our Faces of Both& models as guides. If you prefer to figure out your size based on measurements, please read the following:

      The measurements provided below are the measurements of the garment. For pants/bottoms, we recommend making your size decision based on the measurement of wherever you want your pants to fit, and then choosing a garment whose measurement for that place that is 1-1.5" larger. The low hip can be found by measuring around your body at the widest part of your bum.

      For tops, we recommend choosing a size based around the measurement you are most concerned about/is most likely to cause dysphoria. So, for instance, if that is your hips, and your hip measurement is 44", then don’t get 1x (which is 44" at the hips), as that would be skin tight. Order 2x, so that you have 2 inches of room at the key spot.

      Inches
      XS S M L 1X 2X 3X 4X
      LENGTH 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28.5 29.5
      SHOULDERS 15.8 16.3 16.8 17.3 17.8 18.3 19 19.8
      CHEST 37.3 39.3 41.3 43.3 45.3 47.3 50.3 53.3
      HIPS 37.5 39.5 41.5 43.5 45.5 47.5 50.5 53.5

      Fit details - Francis

      1. High Quality, soft cotton to hold structure
      2. side slits and longer back for extra movement around hips
      3. thoughtful button placement for folks who are binding
      4. Adjusted length for a shorter torso

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      Customer Reviews

      Based on 28 reviews
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      Tammy

      Customer service is not great. Product was lost for a while with little to no help.

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      N.H.
      2X fit my 52.75" hip, 44.5" post-op chest

      I was nervous when ordering that this shirt, like most made for cis men, would fit my chest but not my AFAB hips. I was happily surprised to find that wasn't the case! I got a 2X optimizing for a proper chest fit and the shirt isn't snug on my 52.75" hips even though the size chart lists a much smaller hip measurement. Even if you have dysphoria around your hips, I think ordering 1 size up from what your chest measurement puts you in will work well. You might want to go up 2 sizes if you have a large waist/hip measurement (I'm 42.75" at my natural waist). I'm 5' 1.5" and the shirt did not feel too long the way many shirts for cis guys often do for me. Fabric is so buttery and wonderful to wear; feels like it'll last a long time.

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      Thank you so much for taking the time for this detailed review and for pointing out sizing recommendations for folks :)

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      S.I.
      Francis

      I am 5’4” and purchased the Francis kit in L (black and beige)I have no complaints, because I truly believe it fits me quite well. I think it hugs the shoulders perfectly. The texture is soft and I can mix and match with jeans and shorts for a great look.

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      What a great look!

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      J.C.
      lovely

      i love my shirt! the only “complaint” i have is that it’s a little short. I’m 5’7 if i was any taller the XL would have been too short so i’d size up if you’re worried about it not fitting. But the fabric is quality and it’s very flattering on me as someone who wears a binder whenever i can

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      a.
      LOVE!!

      I am OBSESSED with the fit of this collared shirt. Got instant gender euphoria seeing how it fell just at my waist instead of being all scrunched up like standard men's collared shirts. the fabric also feels super comfortable. i would loveeee to see more button ups in various styles, colors, and patterns.

      only thing i wasn't big on were that the excess fabric on the shoulders are stiff and pointy. but it's not very noticeable, so I'm not trippin too much.

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